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They Say / I Say: The Moves That Matter In Academic Writing First Edition

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"I like the way the Graffs pick apart what's really happening in an argument. Many students get to college not knowing how to make the moves necessary to put forth an argument, and this book helps them work through that process."
― Christine Cozzens, Agnes Scott College

"Especially for beginning writers, "They Say / I Say" offers an excellent roadmap to the new world of academic discourse."
― Daniel Zimmerman, Middlesex County College

"The argument of this book is important-that there are 'moves' to academic writing . . . and that knowledge of them can be generative. The template format is a good way to teach and demystify the moves that matter. I like this book a lot."
― David Bartholomae, University of Pittsburgh

"I absolutely love the governing idea of this book. As a teacher and WPA, I'm constantly thinking about how I can teach my students-and how I can help instructors teach their students-to make specific rhetorical moves on the page. This book offers a very powerful way of doing that."
― Joseph Bizup, Columbia University

"Graff and Birkenstein's basic argument is both persuasive and congruent with my own experience: these are the moves I needed to learn as a student. A very, very smart book."
― Lisa Ede, Oregon State University

"This book demystifies rhetorical moves, tricks of the trade that many students are unsure about. It's reasonable, helpful, nicely written―and hey, it's true. I would have found it immensely helpful myself in high school and college."
― Mike Rose, University of California, Los Angeles

"Demystifies academic argumentation. I like this book very much!"
― Patricia Bizzell, College of the Holy Cross

"Brilliantly simple . . . adds to the argumentative strategies students already possess . . . distills the essence of academic discourse in a way that students can understand and employ in their own writing."
― Russel Durst, University of Cincinnati

"A joy to read . . . like having a private tutorial with gifted teachers."
― Sarah Duerden, Arizona State University

"The ability to engage with the thoughts of others is one of the most important skills taught in any college-level writing course, and this book does as good a job teaching that skill as any text I have ever encountered."
― William Smith, Weatherford College

About the Author

Gerald Graff, Emeritus Professor of English and Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago and 2008 President of the Modern Language Association of America, has had a major impact on teachers through such books as Professing Literature: An Institutional History, Beyond the Culture Wars: How Teaching the Conflicts Can Revitalize American Education, and Clueless in Academe: How Schooling Obscures the Life of the Mind.

Cathy Birkenstein is a lecturer in English at the University of Illinois at Chicago. She has published essays on writing in College English, and, with Gerald Graff in The Chronicle of Higher Education, Academe, and College Composition and Communication.

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ASIN ‏ : ‎ 0393924092
Publisher ‏ : ‎ W. W. Norton & Company; First Edition (January 10, 2006)
Language ‏ : ‎ English
Paperback ‏ : ‎ 181 pages
ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 9780393924091
ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0393924091
Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 6.9 ounces
Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 5.1 x 0.5 x 7.3 inches

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GERALD GRAFF, a Professor of English and Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago and 2008 President of the Modern Language Association of America, has had a major impact on teachers through such books as Professing Literature: An Institutional History, Beyond the Culture Wars: How Teaching the Conflicts Can Revitalize American Education, and, most recently, Clueless in Academe: How Schooling Obscures the Life of the Mind.

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Aeries

Best writing guide out there

Reviewed in the United States on February 18, 2009

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I begrudgingly bought this book for my senior seminar. I thought it would be a bit childish for the class and the expected maturity level of the students therein. As a result, it sat on my bookshelf, ignored for most of the semester. That is, until I was having problems writing my final paper.

At a loss, I turned to this book, and immediately started kicking myself for not doing so sooner. Every other writing guide and style book I have come across has been largely useless and rough reading. Graff and Birkenstein's efforts succeed where these others have failed. Their book is not only accessible, but well divided into manageable parts that are rich in advice, but not overwhelmingly so.

I started the book doubtful of their strategies, particularly the use of templates. However, I was quickly won over. I soon came to see that rather than stifling, the templates helped arrange what I was trying to say in a way that made it much easier to make my points.

Most of all, this book helped me by reminding me and proving to me how a good literary paper comes about. Professors always say that you need to explain why the topic is important for it to be a good paper. This book shows exactly how to do that: by making the paper become a conversation between yourself and other critics, and avoiding summarizing the topic or what has been said about it overmuch.

This is one book that I expect I will use time and time again in the years to come.

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K. Barbayanni

Love this book!

Reviewed in the United States on October 21, 2022

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As an adult student this book is a great resource to ease back into educational writing with lots of prompts and easy to use templates. Highly recommended

Reviewed in the United States on January 16, 2013

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How much simpler could it get, templates for building your best arguements and critical responses. I had returned to graduate school after a 10 year vacation from academia and was sorely out of practice when a fab professor obligated the class to purchase this book. What a life saver and I use it to this very day when I am approaching a paper. I have had it for two years and believe it will be a staple in writing any of my future critical research papers or until I have become an expert at it on my own.

Reviewed in the United States on December 27, 2021

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The book arrived on time for first day of class... It was in good condition...

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KC

For Teachers (and Students) of Persuasive Writing

Reviewed in the United States on February 21, 2009

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Graff and Birkenstein's short discourse on how to argue effectively is written in a clean, informal style that will appeal equally to young writers and their teachers. The authors stress the need to not only be familiar with your opponents' views, but to briefly incorporate them into your paper before offering your own counterarguments. This, along with providing context for the subject matter at hand, will make the paper that much stronger not only in its logos, but in its ethos and pathos as well.

Especially appealing are the templates provided in each chapter. Like "training wheels," they provide a perfect start for writers hoping to show some rhetorical flair. Conveniently, the authors provide all of the templates together in an index at the back of the book. All in all, a worthy addition for your arsenal of writing manuals.

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Tom Costello

They Say/I Say is a smart and satisfying book.

Reviewed in the United States on February 26, 2007

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Graff and Birkenstein have written the best book about academic writing I've read. Its
strategies, or moves, extend way beyond the purely academic to all kinds of non-fiction writing and have been put to rigorous classroom tests both by the authors and by many of their peers. They Say/I Say is also a pleasure to read: Graff and Birkenstein practice the very writing lessons they're advocating, so that the book becomes a testimonial to itself, and to the wisdom of its own teachings. Even the interior design of They Say/I Say is pleasing and helps to convey the book's message.

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Will

Poorly Written

Reviewed in the United States on August 30, 2010

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The book is generally poorly written. It is extremely colloquial, and thus could be of use for teaching younger students. However, for an educated audience (college level), it is extremely weak and close to useless. I was assigned this book for an introductory writing course at my college and was surprised and slightly embarrassed at the quality of the writing.

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Rissa

They Say/I Say

Reviewed in the United States on June 30, 2009

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Truly a great help in writing academic papers; although I am not convinced that the concept of "templates" is good for every student. Readers and writers should pay attention to this concept, as it may be a catalyst for change in the way academic papers are written. I'm not sure yet if I think this is a good thing or not. It certainly will help students who have little or no experience in writing. The book has many helpful tips in general; its the "template" thing that I need to think about.

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